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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:50 am |
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*Johnny*
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Location: Pigg River District, Pittsylvania County, Virginia
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This number sure is a fun one to jam down those Carolina backroads... I got a lot of miles out of it last week...
SOLDIER'S JOY
I love somebody yes I do
I love somebody yes I do
I love somebody yes I do
But I betcha five dollars that you don't know who
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
And here's a little tune called Soldier's Joy
I'm gonna get a drink don't you wanna go
I'm gonna get a drink don't you wanna go
I'm gonna get a drink don't you wanna go
Down that Georgia road
It's fifteen cents for the morphine
Twenty-five cents for the beer
Fifteen cents for the morphine
Gonna take me away from here
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
And here's a little tune called Soldier's Joy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
I am my mama's darlin' boy
And here's a little tune called Soldier's Joy |
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Kitty |
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:12 am |
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*Mrs. Kitty*
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You are sure right there, P-tucky. That is a good one that you don't hear too often anymore. One I am hoping to learn to play soon too.... so if someone can get up with the chords or more, that would be great! |
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:44 pm |
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*Data Miner*
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'Soldier's Joy' is on Adrienne Young's Plow to the End of the Row. A really nice song! (I'm still searching for the first Plow to the End of the Row that Young did with the boys. They make up only a small part of her second recording of the same album, having been 'replaced' by Little Sadie.) |
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greasy-coat |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:47 am |
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Old Crow
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I've also seen this tune referred to as 'Love Somebody'.
Clack Mountain Stringband call it that.
Great tune! I hear it all the time, very popular at old time fiddle jams. |
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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:52 am |
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*Johnny*
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Location: Pigg River District, Pittsylvania County, Virginia
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It's "Soldier's Joy" waaaaaaaaaaaay back. It was old by the time of the Revolution. |
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greasy-coat |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:09 pm |
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Old Crow
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Oh yea, I wasn't suggesting the love somebody title pre-dateed ole Soldier's Joy.
. . . .and while we're on the subject what items would be considered a 'Soldier's Joy'?
I'll start the list with. . .. . .
Morphine
Liquor/Booze
A woman's company
music |
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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:18 pm |
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*Data Miner*
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Armistice. |
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ozarkbilly |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:23 pm |
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Charlie
Joined: 04 Apr 2007
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R&R
whiskey
women
lulls/downtime
there's this guy on banjo hangout who recorded this bad-ass version of Soldier's Joy where its light and airy and then at end the dude's comin' down off his morphine high. I'll see if I can locate it....
Here's his music archive page. Click on the song title and a player should pop up. I don't think you need to be a member to listen. |
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GumboStu |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:06 pm |
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*Irish Stew*
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no membership needed - it's downloading here, now |
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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:21 pm |
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*Johnny*
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back to the list - i'd say
accurate artillery support |
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GumboStu |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:39 pm |
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*Irish Stew*
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dry boots?
practical officers?
clean bandages? |
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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:55 pm |
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*Johnny*
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a uniformed enemy |
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foxontherun |
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:51 am |
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*Call Me Foxxxy If'n Ya Nasty*
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better then dry boots, dry socks. and lets say an enemy who can see over the counter. |
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:57 am |
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*Data Miner*
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A freedom bird.
(From the Viet Nam era. Let's see who can identify this.) |
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foxontherun |
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:59 am |
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*Call Me Foxxxy If'n Ya Nasty*
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you talkin about CRAF? |
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:07 am |
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*Data Miner*
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You got it!
My father first heard the term "freedom bird" from one of his men who looked up into the sky at a plane departing from Saigon. He said, "Man, look at that freedom bird fly!" These were government contracted flights that returned soldiers to the U.S. after their tour in Viet Nam. I think the term is still used in the military, although the terminology is probably discouraged. |
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Gitjoe |
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 5:54 pm |
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Lil' Birdie
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Soldiers Joy,2/4
D D D A D D D/A D repeat
D G D A D G D/A D repeat |
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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 7:27 pm |
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*Johnny*
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Gitjoe!!! Thankya man!!! |
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Gitjoe |
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:24 pm |
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Lil' Birdie
Joined: 28 Jan 2008
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Your more than welcome,I love the old fiddle tunes!..........Soldiers Joy,Billy in the Lowground,The Bonnie Blue Flag...they don't get any better than that. |
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pittsyltucky |
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:10 pm |
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*Johnny*
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ooooh! The Bonnie Blue Flag... For Southern Rights, hurrah!!!! |
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:48 pm |
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Lil' Birdie
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Bonnie Blue Flag,2/4
A D A E A D E A repeat
A E D A A D E A repeat |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:44 pm |
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Raisin' a Ruckus
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Another name for the tune is "Payday in the Army" so that could be another answer for what "Soldier's Joy" is. I don't think there's really one answer and it's better that way.
Also, a couple sections of Robert Burns' poem "The Jolly Beggars" is written to the tune of "Soldier's Joy":
Quote: AIR.
Tune--"_Soldiers' Joy._"
I am a son of Mars,
Who have been in many wars,
And show my cuts and scars
Wherever I come;
This here was for a wench,
And that other in a trench,
When welcoming the French
At the sound of the drum.
Lal de daudle, &c.
My 'prenticeship I past
Where my leader breath'd his last,
When the bloody die was cast
On the heights of Abram;
I served out my trade
When the gallant game was play'd,
And the Moro low was laid
At the sound of the drum.
Lal de daudle, &c.
I lastly was with Curtis,
Among the floating batt'ries,
And there I left for witness
An arm and a limb;
Yet let my country need me,
With Elliot to head me,
I'd clatter on my stumps
At the sound of a drum.
Lal de dandle, &c.
And now tho' I must beg,
With a wooden arm and leg,
And many a tatter'd rag
Hanging over my bum
I'm as happy with my wallet,
My bottle and my callet,
As when I used in scarlet
To follow a drum.
Lal de daudle, &c.
What tho' with hoary locks
I must stand the winter shocks,
Beneath the woods and rocks
Oftentimes for a home,
When the tother bag I sell,
And the tother bottle tell,
I could meet a troop of hell,
At the sound of a drum.
Lal de daudle, &c.
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Quote: I once was a maid, tho' I cannot tell when,
And still my delight is in proper young men;
Some one of a troop of dragoons was my daddie,
No wonder I'm fond of a sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
The first of my loves was a swaggering blade,
To rattle the thundering drum was his trade;
His leg was so tight, and his cheek was so ruddy,
Transported I was with my sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
But the godly old chaplain left him in the lurch,
The sword I forsook for the sake of the church;
He ventur'd the soul, and I risk'd the body,
'Twas then I prov'd false to my sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
Full soon I grew sick of my sanctified sot,
The regiment at large for a husband I got;
From the gilded spontoon to the fife I was ready,
I asked no more but a sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
But the peace it reduc'd me to beg in despair,
Till I met my old boy in a Cunningham fair;
His rags regimental they flutter'd so gaudy,
My heart is rejoic'd at my sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
And now I have liv'd--I know not how long,
And still I can join in a cup or a song;
But whilst with both hands I can hold the glass steady,
Here's to thee, my hero, my sodger laddie.
Sing, Lal de dal, &c.
Anyway, great topic. I love the old stuff. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:38 pm |
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Raisin' a Ruckus
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I'm working on Soldier's Joy on the fiddle right now, although at best it's a choppy waltz. :( I know that practice makes perfect, but dang I wish that I could cut loose on that tune now. |
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Indiana Girl |
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:43 pm |
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Old Crow
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I'm also practicing that one as much as I can. As soon as I heard that YouTube video kayakgirl posted a couple years ago I have vowed to get to where I could cut loose. My kids love dancing while I play, so I guess I must be decent...but then again they're 2 and 5.
Are you trying the variation Ketch uses? There are so many variations but he actually picked a semi-easy one...he just saws it like crazy. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:57 pm |
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Raisin' a Ruckus
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My fiddle teacher is using a pretty standard A part, but the B part is from the Skillet Lickers. I'm learning by ear, so little things like note names and things like that I can't fill in. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:07 pm |
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Old Crow
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My old fiddle teacher wrote out notes using the strings (1A, 3G, etc). Coming from a piano background I like to know the actual notes. I tried to teach him one time but he liked his own way, which was fine. I quit taking lessons after about a year because it just wasn't working for me. I guess being a teacher helps me realize how I personally learn best. I instantly got better when I made some changes in my bow hold and fingering, stuff that wasn't the way he did it but that worked best for me and my teeny-tiny fingers. If I wanted to be a classical violinist I'd probably follow the rules more but I'm just in it for the enjoyment. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:36 pm |
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I'm learning the fingering as well, but I have a cd instead of it written down, and when his recorder doesn't pick it up loudly, then I'm a little in the dark. My problem is that I have big fingers and sometimes the fine work of getting a note, or some of those twisty chords give me fits. I'm having a tough time working on two strings at the same time to get a good drone going, but I like my piddling around. I've been taking lessons for about eight months now, so I guess I shouldn't get down on myself as long as I'm having a good time. My next big leap is to get a "new" fiddle, as mine is a Chinese prison labor model and sounds like one. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:24 pm |
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Old Crow
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Yep, like I've said before, even Ketch used to refer to him self as a "shitty fiddler" so there's hope for us.
Sounds like we have the opposite problem. I actually play a 7/8 size because I have the hand size of an 11-year-old (seriously--they measured me at the music store). Keep your cheapy fiddle when you get a good one. I have an eBay fiddle from my in-laws that I keep tuned AEAE, that way I can keep my nicer one in standard tuning. (Problem is that one is a 4/4 so it gets all confusing spacing-wise jumping from one to the other....) |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:30 pm |
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There's a very nice gentleman here in town who restores old fiddles as well as makes new fine violins, and at the recommendation of my instructor I went there to check out the selection. Let's just say that I about crapped my pants when he told me that the cheapest fiddle that he let me play was $1500, and the bow was another $500. I know that I'm looking at that price range now for a good vintage fiddle, but dang, I felt awful inadequate playing cluck old hen to try them out. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:50 pm |
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Old Crow
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My husband sold his old junker IH Scout for me so I could buy my $500 fiddle. You men will understand why that was the nicest thing he's ever done for me. I bought mine from my old fiddle teacher who had a great selection of used fiddles. I was told by the music store that he cut me a heck of a deal. I just let him play on each of them so I could listen to how it SHOULD sound then tried it myself. I picked one that had a richer more earthy sound--I'm not big on really bright fiddles. My friend plays classical violin and has this amazingly expensive bow. I can tell you that a good bow is where you should spend the money. |
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